Some people....
I am posting a response to a blog I stumbled over tonight. Pissed me off something fierce that people could be so damn stupid....Maybe he's just ignorant, I can't really tell. Anyways, his "story"
This is stupidity of the highest degree. The entire story you made from whole cloth is not happening today and even with major powers given over to the government still would not happen for many many years. Let us disect the elements of your story.
School uniforms: While maybe being mandatory, clothing itself is mandatory. In most schools where uniforms are required it is part of the tuition in private schools and in public schools (much like the "free" lunch program) those who cannot afford them are given them from your dime and mine.
The FBI cannot simply waltz into a library and check your records for anything non-terrorism related. Have you even bothered to read the PATRIOT Act?
Those who fear the thought of intelligent design (which is supported by a number of scientists) obviously cannot believe that anyone would question their religion of Darwinism and MACRO evolution. There is no evidence of macro evolution on the scale needed showing species to speceis change yet you believe it like a Christian believes in God. Where is your scientific effort for truth? Is science not always changing looking for the truth? Why have you stopped here?
We do not have multiple daily "random" checkpoints accross the country, nor do we have police checking every single person out with vigor like you describe. The last time we had a large manhunt like that was for a serial killer who was killing people with no motive. That is quite justified.
Probable cause like you state has been thrown out by many courts.
Then you question the right of an employer for drug testing. Lets talk about the multiple issues you bring up here. First, you should (as someone who loves liberty) be the first person to stand up for the constitution since you cling to it so dearly. Remember the freedom of association clause? That pesky thing where we are allowed to deal with the people we want to deal with and not deal with people we dont want to deal with? The employer has that same right. Second, drugs do some really nasty things to your mind, to your body and generally cause ill effects to all around you. For example, pot tends to make people lazier, or hallucinogens make people see things that arent there. They are also an increase in cost of health care treatment and cause bodily functions to slow and cease in some cases. Do drugs or get a job, pretty simple choice.
Medical records are not seized, they are copied. There would have been no problem as of such. Even if the whole thing was taken they would have made a new set and transferred the records over when they got them back.
If government agents had been in his home they would have still needed a warrant. There is nothing in any act of congress that negates the need for a warrant. Things like the PATRIOT Act make it much easier to get a warrant for TERRORISM related charges, but they still need one.
You story, while you claim it to be 99% factual, is in fact 100% fiction.
Below is a little story I wrote that characterizes the “minor inconveniences” we are being subjected to, and takes them to their logical conclusion. Ninety-nine percent of the below is true (including Albertson’s drug testing policy) and very possible today:
Mike starts his day by getting his children out of bed and ready for school. Mike works the day shift at the Albertson’s grocery store downtown and although money is tight, buying mandatory uniforms for his kids to wear to school is a requirement, not a luxury. Street clothing for his fifteen year old daughter on the other hand, is a luxury and Mike’s inability to buy additional clothes for her is an endless cause of friction.
His son, Little Tommy, pipes up as they put on their identical clothing; “We’re going to the Library today on a field trip dad!” Mike’s face turn ashen, “Well that’s good Tommy,” he says “but remember don’t you dare check out any books since I won’t be there with you. We have to be very careful what sort of books we read. Remember, there are people watching what you read and they will use it against you.”
Looking frightened, Tommy nods his head in agreement slowly. “And remember Tommy” Mike adds “We have to study that Intelligent Design as an alternative to evolution thing tonight and afterwards we have to study the stork as an alternative to sexual reproduction.”
Quickly hustling out to the street with the kids to meet the bus, Mike waits along the sidewalk with them. It’s illegal in Mike’s community for children waiting for the bus to be unattended by an adult. Finally the bus arrives and Mike can turn supervision of his children to the bus driver and the television cameras that will record all of his children’s activities until they arrive home in the evening.
After a quick wave to the kids, Mike hops into his car and heads for the “random” checkpoint at the end of the street. Officer Bob is waiting for Mike to stop so he can check his license, registration, and insurance papers. Mike proffers the documents to Bob who notes that Mike appears to be tired this morning. “That’s probable cause, Mike” drawls Bob.
“But Bob, yesterday when I wasn’t tired, you said that was probable cause too!” exclaims Mike.
“And so it was Mike, now just step out of the vehicle while the dogs do their job.”
Realizing further protest would land him back in jail like last week, Mike complies. All the rest of the way to the Subway station, Mike waves to the cameras on each street corner, while keeping his thoughts to himself.
After two more checkpoints, Mike arrives at the train and stops at the passenger checkpoint for his “random” search. Luckily, Mike has learned not to carry and packages other than the one holding his identification papers.
The boss is waiting for Mike when he arrives at the grocery store. “Drug test day Mike,” says the boss. “Oh jeez, Mr. Whipple, I’m just a bagboy after all. Even if I did take drugs last night, what would that have to do with me carrying groceries out to cars?”
“Be careful Mike, don’t you know there’s a camera right there watching everything you say?” says Mr. Whipple without moving his lips.
Hanging his head in shame, Mike mumbles “Sorry Boss.”
Arriving at the Doctor’s office to donate his urine for Albertson’s, Mike is informed by the office secretary that his medical records haven’t been returned by the FBI yet.
Knowing this just isn’t his day, Mike calls Mr. Whipple and lets him know he can’t do the drug test because of the records problem. He goes on tell him he’s just going to go home.
After all of the reverse hassle heading home, Mike walks into his house only to find the place is total mess. All of the drawers are emptied out and the furniture is overturned. Stuck on the fridge is a note from government agents telling Mike not to leave work early again. Next time they’ll arrest him for obstruction of justice.
Mike thinks to him self; “I guess I’ll have the last laugh though, next week we have to out of this place and out on the street. The judge says I’ve got to give up my house to make room for a new Starbucks.” He wants to take the little flag lapel pin off his collar and throw it away, but he knows better.
This is stupidity of the highest degree. The entire story you made from whole cloth is not happening today and even with major powers given over to the government still would not happen for many many years. Let us disect the elements of your story.
School uniforms: While maybe being mandatory, clothing itself is mandatory. In most schools where uniforms are required it is part of the tuition in private schools and in public schools (much like the "free" lunch program) those who cannot afford them are given them from your dime and mine.
The FBI cannot simply waltz into a library and check your records for anything non-terrorism related. Have you even bothered to read the PATRIOT Act?
Those who fear the thought of intelligent design (which is supported by a number of scientists) obviously cannot believe that anyone would question their religion of Darwinism and MACRO evolution. There is no evidence of macro evolution on the scale needed showing species to speceis change yet you believe it like a Christian believes in God. Where is your scientific effort for truth? Is science not always changing looking for the truth? Why have you stopped here?
We do not have multiple daily "random" checkpoints accross the country, nor do we have police checking every single person out with vigor like you describe. The last time we had a large manhunt like that was for a serial killer who was killing people with no motive. That is quite justified.
Probable cause like you state has been thrown out by many courts.
Then you question the right of an employer for drug testing. Lets talk about the multiple issues you bring up here. First, you should (as someone who loves liberty) be the first person to stand up for the constitution since you cling to it so dearly. Remember the freedom of association clause? That pesky thing where we are allowed to deal with the people we want to deal with and not deal with people we dont want to deal with? The employer has that same right. Second, drugs do some really nasty things to your mind, to your body and generally cause ill effects to all around you. For example, pot tends to make people lazier, or hallucinogens make people see things that arent there. They are also an increase in cost of health care treatment and cause bodily functions to slow and cease in some cases. Do drugs or get a job, pretty simple choice.
Medical records are not seized, they are copied. There would have been no problem as of such. Even if the whole thing was taken they would have made a new set and transferred the records over when they got them back.
If government agents had been in his home they would have still needed a warrant. There is nothing in any act of congress that negates the need for a warrant. Things like the PATRIOT Act make it much easier to get a warrant for TERRORISM related charges, but they still need one.
You story, while you claim it to be 99% factual, is in fact 100% fiction.
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